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- From: J.Martin@dial.pipex.com (J Martin)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,uk.telecom,comp.os.ms-windows.apps.comm,comp.dcom.fax
- Subject: Re: PhoneBlaster, UK Caller ID Some More Answers & Q's
- Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 21:11:16 GMT
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- tothill@dircon.co.uk (Geoff Tothill) wrote:
- [Snipped thanks]
-
- >The bottom line on the Creative Card (PhoneBlaster 28.8) is that it
- >was not designed to be compatable with the UK CLID standard - nor
- >should it have ever been advertised as such. I am told that Creative
- >UK are most anxious that they hear of any advertising information that
- >implies this in the UK. I guess that one problem with the internet is
- >that product information from the US is the most easilly available and
- >this tends to ignore country specific changes to hardware necessary
- >for certification.
-
- Does anyone know whether the Hayes Optima 288 Business V/F/D modem has
- UK (BT) CLI? I have emailed eurotech@hayes.com for an answer but have
- received diddly squat so far. In any case, the modem is not yet
- available in UK, despite having been promised in December and
- Technomatic running adverts since the middle of the year, so maybe
- there is a problem ;-). BTW, Technomatic advertised the Phoneblaster
- with CLI up until their February 96 adverts. Now they don't mention
- it.
-
- [snipped bit about voice quality]
-
- >Lastly......
-
- >I wondered if anyone had found a software/hardware solution to the
- >question of conversion of UK Standard CLID to Bell Standard (US) CLID.
- >It strikes me this should not really be a problem. As the UK
- >information appears earlier than the US coding it should be possible
- >to 'capture' the info sent after the initial line polarity reversal
- >that preceeds the first ring and then send it on to the modem up the
- >phone line after the first ring. It might be that due to the shorter
- >duration of the ring cadence in the UK it might not be possible to
- >pass the CLI info and the second ring to the modem, but this would not
- >be a problem, the hardware could just ignore the second ring and pass
- >the third as normal after the re directed CLI data. Any clean up of
- >the string could be done later in software.
-
- This actually looks fiendishly complex and effectively amounts to a UK
- CLI modem being strapped to the back of an exchange line card. I think
- a UK CLI modem is a more commercially viable development proposition
- and, therefore, more likely to be the consumer's ultimate choice.
-
- >Let me explain my obsession with the whole thing. I would like to
- >develop a voice mail system in C++ which would play an appropriate
- >outgoing message or activate a voicemail script dependant on the
- >incoming CLI. It strikes me that many callers to a domestic line
- >don't want (or need) the vast range of voicemail options currently
- >presented to them, but as I run a small business from home I want
- >clients (or unknown callers) to have access to the whole system
- >(including product fax back etc). My more technophobic callers
- >(mainly family) have already started hanging up rather than wade
- >through the command prompts :-)
-
- Just what I want to do but for different reasons. Fortunately I
- haven't bought the modem yet (which is why I wish Hayes would pull
- their digits out) so I can learn from your findings. I eventually want
- to run the thing under Linux which is a lot easier to use when sharing
- a com port between discrete applications. I have had the vgetty
- package suggested to me but, without the hardware, have not yet tried
- it. But I am looking forward to the phone automatically refusing to
- answer if the boss rings...
-
- >Any further ideas, requests for the BT standards documents or pointers
- >to this hardware solution to the convertion would be gratefully
- >accepted.
-
- >Happy New Year All,
-
- >Geoff Tothill
- >(tothill@dircon.co.uk)
-
- >Press 1 for a Message to Geoff.........Press 2 for Coffee......
- >3 for a Faxed copy of my entire library.....4 for Psychiatric help etc
- >Thank you for calling :-)
- --
- John Martin
- J.Martin@dial.pipex.com
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